I have given it a chance for sure I have two characters to level 11!!
I'm looking at the negatives as I struggle to find positives besides the addition of headlamps and improved graphics, and global events are better than nothing I suppose.

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I'm glad you lot like it, I though people would be more cheesed off given all the, in my opinion, the very main aspects of the series they have left out.

The game is all about winning, and that's no fun!

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And in COD, you don't worry about winning as a team and getting highest K/D ?
Competition gives it more replay value.

If you don't like this game, just get rid of it, and not
bitch about what we should like.

I could hate on COD all i want and tell you that you shouldn't play it,
but with your previous post, you'd rather play MW3, so go play that.

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Just drop the CoD thing, not on here to talk about that. Don't get your little panties in a twist because I like it.

Oh yeah i would get rid of it if it wasn't for the darn online pass, damn you EA!

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This game isn't friendly to people who lack natural talent. If I sucked at this game I might hate it or not play it. Maybe I would make a thread on a fan site about how much I suck and see if anyone would care.

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I really wish Kav's post was in its own thread, rather than lost in the middle of the bordering-on-troll discussion going on around it.


I'm in like with SSX 2012. I don't play it as much as I'd hoped to, because the dressing around the core gameplay loop are not hooking me. Haven't bought Mount Eddie, haven't even gotten a character to Level 10. My last playsession was 2 weeks ago; managed to get my first gold medal in Explore. (Did beat World Tour mode - without cheating / skipping ahead - before putting the game down for ME3.)

Pretty much on the bottom of every scoreboard for every event....because my PS3 friends playing this game are mostly from Merq., and have devoted far more time to the game than I have. It is a huge disincentive to keep playing when you throw down your best time / score and still see it ranked dead last (even if you know that character / gear level is a severe handicap).
This is a design decision, and why seemingly every video game podcast I listen to is making a reference to the new Trials game on 360. That sense of needing to do everything perfectly, and the nagging sense that you are just behind the ghost of one of your friends....all clear callbacks to Todd talking about the Trials games as an influence on this game. If that's your itch, this game scratches it until it bleeds.

If that's not why you loved SSX, then this game hits you a bit lukewarm. It's not a bad game, and it's the game they wanted to make, but there's nothing relaxing about the experience.

For example, this is how I played SSX3:
- trick
- grind to keep combo up, steer into next kicker / rail / trick opportunity

Just doing that is good enough to gold medal nearly every event in 3 (and platinum the superpipes). It's a lot of fun, and makes you feel awesome in the process. I didn't keep playing because I wanted to get that extra 2000 points to get past the next person on my leaderboard (even playing multiplayer with real-life friends, I was my leaderboard); I did it because I was having a blast playing.

SSX 2012
-trick
-trick...need to keep combo up
-trick...can't lose flow
(-fall into something - optional)
(-rewind)
-fall behind on time / score
-restart

While the steering isn't as precise as it was in 3 (and I could tailslide on ice more precisely in SSX3 than I can steer on snow in 2012), I'm almost never on the ground to actually steer in the first place. If I am doing something awesome, I don't have time to enjoy any of it.


Fully open to the possibility that I'm doing it wrong, but if I am, it's negative interference from Tricky / 3. I don't begrudge anyone for loving this game; it's just not what I wanted for the return of the franchise. (And I hate feeling like I need to buy more of this one so there's a chance I'll get one that I like more, but that's more of a business model concern than gameplay.)

That is a problem. It really isn't kind on people who can't devote a lot of time to it or simply just aren't half decent gamers. I've lost count of the amount of people on various gaming forums who have said something along the lines of 'if I wasn't already a huge SSX fan I'd hate this game'

Though it has to be said I think that's really harsh. I genuinely do think SSX 2012 is as good as the older games. It just has a different focus.

I think they just put the difficult in the spot light. ssx3 kind of hid the difficult parts. For example, some of those challenges were brutal. Gated race challenges come to mind or the grind x number of roof tops on MercCity. Also, the platinum medals were kind hidden. I didn't even know they were there until I got one by accident. Plus, getting platinum medals wasn't a requirement for getting that completed X on a range. To me 2012 just made gold metals more like the platinum metals from ssx3. Yes, some of the tracks with crevasse and pits are way harder, but you don't have to play those. Honestly, getting 100% in ssx3 was harder than getting the platinum trophy for 2012. Now if the platinum required all golds and all snowflakes collected I might have a different opinion.

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Gamers of this generation are impatient and don't want to learn the mechanics, that is why the shooter genre is so popular, it's pick up and play game play.

RPG and RTS, are both that take some time getting used to them, knowing when to use certain tactics and adopting.

I hate the notion, have people can justify what we should, or shouldn't like.
There lots of games that I would like to try or just don't interest me, but it's mainly because of time restraints or i have other games mainly in my backlog that i want to beat.

Nowadays, i mainly buy something that i know that will last me a long time, around 10-20 games is a good length for me, or a story i really liked.

Lets just LOCK this THREAD, it's going no where, and clearly the OP doesn't want to hear what we have to say, because he would rather play something else, or live in the past.

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I think you will find, you were the one who mentioned Call of Duty, not us!

What does the Online Pass have anything to do with it ? you can still play online, but if people want to get their earnings from Global Events, they'll have to pay the $10.

There are tons of gamers that wouldn't mind paying the $10, if they really wanted the game and with the replay value you get with the game, the price is worth it.

Did you play the demo that came out ? that should have given you an indication if it's for you or not.

I struggled with this game at first, but the more i got the hang of it, the more i enjoyed it.

Now recently i've bought NBA 2k12 for PC, and I'm not going to give up because it has a steep learning curve, but give it my best to learn what it provides because I'm a fan of basketball.

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I destroyed the demo! played it for hours, managed to get 30 million on bulldog. It was after a few weeks and the novelty had worn off that I realised all the things that were missing from the game, I had become tired of the lacklustre course design and the unstructured single player and the gimmicky new additions. there are so many tracks and only a few stand out. they could easily get rid of half of them and i wouldn't be bothered! In regards to the online pass, it kills the trade in price rendering it not worth getting rid of.

I'm not bad at it so I come on the internet and say how bad it is or anything like that, i just don't think it is a good game. Not lived up to my expectations anyway. 55/100. Would be higher if it was the first in the series though probably.

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Your as bad as those Edge reviewers, if the novelty wore off by the demo, then why did you buy it ?
I just hated that you were disgusted at how we could like the game.

We don't tell you what you should like and neither should you.

Genres/ Games are for a specific crowd, if you don't like something, there are hundreds of them out there for you to try, until you find something worth your time.

This game changed a lot from SSX 3, and your score of the game, just shows how frustrated you are with something that you thought you would enjoy.
ADMIN just LOCK this THREAD, there's no point to talk to a COD fan boy who likes to play the same crap, year after year, and when a game has a drastic change, he gives it low marks.

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Not really a CoD fanboy, seeing as I only have CoD 4 and never play it. I just said that I would get rid of SSX and BF3 for CoD but I can't because of the online passes, but that's besides the point.

I meant a few weeks after buying the game not playing the demo. probably should have made it more clear. I'm not disgusted that people like it, I am surprised though as I truly believe it is not that good and the worst in the series but whatever. If you don't like what I am saying don't read it or go on the thread or something. I wouldn't mind the change if it wasn't a bad one! SSX tricky to 3 was a change, and a great one at that! If a games magazine also gives it 55/100 then I can't be completely wrong surely? it is my opinion anyway.

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That doesn't leave a whole lot of game though, I think thats the perception. You're definitely right in saying SSX12 just puts its difficulty in other areas when compared to past SSX's but I think to a lot of people SSX as a whole is defined by its tracks to a large degree and the mistake of SSX2012 was to just make the tracks too similar and for the most part too challenging and frustrating. I think SSX is the sort of game people want to be able to pick up and dive into without devoting their gaming lives to getting to grips with, that's the bottom line I think. With the past SSX's you could just pick them up and have a quick laugh with your mates playing without throwing the controller through the TV, though they could provide you with that reaction if you wanted it. It just wasn't forced upon you like with some of SSX2012.

They've even made lock jaw/(which was happiness from SSX 3) frustrating by adding crevasses! They don't even make sense, they are just random bottomless pits in the middle of the track! the tracks in the alps that are really thin ridges I don't mind so much as a change of pace, but jumping off the end of a red rail or a lit kicker and falling straight down a pit is just so ridiculous, I'm sorry but it is! Why they ever thought they were a good idea is beyond me!

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My problem is that you don't compete with enemys (npc's or players) in real time.

Imagine Mario Kart only with time trial. It would be really boring! And that's why I think SSX 2012 is boring.

Yeah I agree, it feels as if you are alone, which i know is stupid seeing as it is a game but, I liked the spectator stands and normal riders from OT and the radio announcer. also the riders talking to each other in the events, gave the game a bit of life to it! the heli pilots don't really do anything for me. especially when you auto trick off them to your doom! so annoying!

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Who said everyone here hates CoD? I love CoD Black Ops and I'm still playing it once or twice a week but not for the normal MP. I like the zombie-mode, and to get close to my records I'm playing it for at least 4 hours in a row (level 40 or higher). SSX is the first game since Black Ops that actually got me hooked again. I hate MW3 and I'm only buying the treyarch versions from now on. No zombies in CoD = no fun = no buy

SSX also reminds me a lot of the days Tony Hawk Pro Skater(THPS) was one of my favorite games. Within a couple of weeks they will bring out a HD version of the first 2 THPS-games. At first I was stoked about that. It couldn't get better. Even thinking: why didn't SSX do the same? But now THPS HD is getting closer and I'm getting mixed feelings already. Will it be as good as I remember? It can't be any better cause there isn't anything new in it... And while I'm thinking about that, I'm almost sure the game will bore me within a few hours. That same feeling I'm also getting when I think about a remake of an older SSX. I like the new stuff they try in games and SSX2012 is filled with it

Maybe some day SSX will go back to the roots more then it did in this version, but I don't hope they'll be too carefull trying new stuff as well.

Haha I mentioned CoD and everyone kicked off!

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Ok here I definitely understand how you feel with this one. No matter how less or more you hold the JUMP, the heli could still come at awkwards times that lead you to death. Which is very annoying. Especially once you figure out how to can increase your score in the game, they really become meaningless.

Otherwise, I do like how its pretty flashy when tricking off the heli. But that's about it.

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What I really, really think would help this game is options to everything that is automated
I'll probably say this until I turn green and blue, but I so strongly believe it would improve the game tremendously.
This could be solved by: Game options - Helicopter grind - Auto (default) / Manual (L2 on a PS3 - to activate helicopter magnetism)

Agreed. Especially for the rails.

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Damn, this is fast turning into the SSX complaints thread.

Can you guys keep your voices down please, it's distracting me from playing the latest and greatest SSX game in the series

Lol I am too, trust me. Just getting a couple things off my chest.

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