Wed May 04, 2011 1:00 pm
Lord Elevation wrote:So, no, not everyone has to act like a psychopath. Most people act with a sense of sympathy and cooperation, with an inherent understanding that working together is a worthy enterprise. It is the psychopathic predators of our society, who have successfully hijacked all our systems of organization, that tell us we need fear and brutality. They tell us this is the only way the world works. Fortunately for us, the lifestyles of the majority of people on this planet prove otherwise.
crispncrunchy wrote:As far as I am concerned someone who pursues the "dog-eat-dog/strong & weak" mantra in their lives suffers power obsession and has a spiritual void which they can't work out how to fill.
Wed May 04, 2011 7:13 pm
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Thu May 05, 2011 1:34 pm
crispncrunchy wrote:Yes Kubi it could be 42. That's how many seconds I microwave the milk for my coffee every morning. That has meaning to me and coffee provides me the energy to get into the day.
Thu May 05, 2011 4:20 pm
Thu May 05, 2011 5:42 pm
QuotidianPerfection wrote:(Note: Kubi should read Judgment Day, written by Camping, which explains why Armeggedon is May 21, 2011, and not May 24, 2011.)
Thu May 05, 2011 6:06 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 10:12 am
RE Virus wrote:Kubi shouldn't read shit, he is 11 years old and a half you freak! Just kidding, but let his parents do the brainwashing, will ya?
Fri May 06, 2011 11:11 am
Fri May 06, 2011 4:52 pm
I thought God was all loving, benevolent etc. I wonder if you have considered how many children have been traumatised by this image of God; the old testament Yaweh, the Irish fire & brimstone, the "you will rot in hell unless..." type of GodHis wrath
Been there done that and survived so far, it goes by various names. The most applicable to me are addiction, obsession, compulsion, perfectionism and procrastination.those left on the Earth between May 21, 2011 and October 21, 2011 will have to contend with temporary physical and mental anguish
Possibly including you. As for me, I do know that I am going to die someday. I have zero control over it. If I love myself, I will be able to love those around me and as far as I'm concerned I have achieved meaning in my life. If I am consumed by a ball of fire, I'm gonna die pretty quick, there might be a bit of pain but there will be nothing I can do about it.Suppose Camping's date is correct. If this is the case, then the unsaved in the world are in big trouble.
...but when you say...I do not dislike people who practice a different religion.
you state that they are "insidiously cunning in attaining a goal; crafty or artful deceivers; duplicitous" (to quote dictionary.com) and you imply that they are wrong. You know when I posed my question I wasn't thinking so much of medieval Sorcery and Witchcraft but more of the other major religions, Islam, Hindu, Buddhism & Judaism. Do you consider that the Christian-Islamic-Judea god is essentially that same god? And have you reflected on the fact that the 3 religions claim this god as their own and that their god is the one and only god?Christians, though, are not to contemn these guiled (maybe guileful is better English) individuals. We, instead, are to present the truth to them. If it is God's plan, then, something wonderful could transpire--they might become saved.
I wasn't talking about Biology, I was talking about physics...I don't really believe in evolution...
I realise now that you are a dyed in the wool creationist/intelligent design adherent. There I was assuming you would be one of those Christians who believe that God set off the universe & waited for all the wonderful processes that scientists are discovering and getting to understand. Please don't assume that scientists are trying to find out who controls physics, they are too busy using physics to explain phenomena; much like religion has traditionally done. This to me is the core reason why religious people have so much antagonism toward science - hey get off my cloud.The intricacy of our universe suggests that the random design of the cosmos is just not possible. Lately, for instance, scientists argued that all of ten plagues that occurred when Ramsses II was living could be scientifically explained. However, they fail to answer the following question: who designed the universe, and controls physics? The answer, of course, is God.
While I firmly disagree with you, I don't have much reason to debate this with you as we are both very unlikely to change our beliefs and I don't see the expenditure of my energy worthwhile.From a practical perspective, there is just as much evidence to support creation as there is to support evolution.
Carbon dating is accurate enough for Archaeologists to confidently state they have discovered Noah's ark and the Dead Sea scrolls.Archaeologists, for example have discovered both Noah's Ark and the dead sea scrolls. Recently, some individuals think that they have found Christ's burial shroud. Yes, dinosaur bones, certain fossilized tree stumps, and items excavated from oceanic blue holes do seem to suggest that the Earth has been around for millions of years when measured via radio carbon dating. But, my question to you is as follows: how accurate is radio carbon dating?
Why? Do you perceive 'lower species' as dirty/disgusting for something?My greatest objection to evolution, though, is the suggestion that we evolved from lower species.
Where did you get that assumption from? The evidence says otherwise. Humans kill each other and kill other animals way way way more than any other species on this planet. It is rare that another species kills it's own and the level at which a hunter species kills another animal is nothing compared to what humans do. I suggest you do some research on this matter.If that is so, humans would just kill each other to survive, and would not think a second about behaving in a scrupulous manner.
Esteemable goals whether you believe in god or not. Do not assume that atheists are not spiritual people. Sadly most people assume we aren't.I care about everyone, regardless of their race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, or religion. This world has too much hate in it. Perhaps, if individuals are more tolerant of one another, then the "enlightened" ones can help the "unenlightened" ones
Fri May 06, 2011 5:21 pm
Do you consider that the Christian-Islamic-Judea god is essentially that same god? And have you reflected on the fact that the 3 religions claim this god as their own and that their god is the one and only god?
Esteemable goals whether you believe in god or not. Do not assume that atheists are not spiritual people. Sadly most people assume we aren't.
Fri May 06, 2011 6:07 pm
QuotidianPerfection wrote: I am unsure, though, about what that number symbolizes.) The retrobate refers to individuals whom God does not elect to save from His judgment. God will condemn these people.
It is my sincere hope that everyone may find happiness through Christ Jesus.
Fri May 06, 2011 8:15 pm
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Sat May 07, 2011 2:26 am
QuotidianPerfection wrote:Hi Kubi:
Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Let's just say we disagree when the world will end.
By the way, how do you define "the meaning of life?" I am interested to hear your opinion on this matter.
sparks wrote:And yes, I know you're not a JW.
Sat May 07, 2011 3:07 am
QuotidianPerfection wrote:Hi sparks:
Here is a post by arthurgraph (i.e., Arthur Owiti), entitled May 21st Opaclypto: Harold Camping Gets Support from Science and Astronomy, which suggests that Camping's predictions have scientific merit. Here is the link to the post: http://arthurgraph.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/may-21-st-apocalypto-harold-camping-gets-support-from-science-and-astronomy-2/.
I hope that, on May 21st, 2011, I will be raptured along with all the other saved individuals.
Arthur wrote:"Thus Harold Camping’s calculations in my view actually confirm the rising of the Antichrist New World Order that will be painted to look like the rapture .This applies to both May 21st and October 21 st of 2011."
Sat May 07, 2011 3:31 am
kubi wrote:Though, my views on heaven are not as positive. In my opinion, heaven (endless life) would just get boring because it wouldn't have an ending, meaning it wouldn't have a point. It will only be interesting for the first few months (or however time is counted there) and when the end of the world will come.
kubi wrote:I used to wonder, "But what if you expect it every day?" I asked my mum (we were in Tesco) and she said, "If you expect it to happen every day, you don't actually expect it and day." That really got me thinking.
sparks wrote:And yes, I know you're not a JW.
kubi wrote:I am because it's my initials!
Sat May 07, 2011 4:49 am
Sat May 07, 2011 5:05 am
QuotidianPerfection wrote:Hi Kubi and sparks:
I believe, however, that individuals are predestined to lead righteous or sinful lives. Here is a link which, perhaps, can make my thoughts on the preceding issue more transparent: http://calvinistcorner.com/tulip.
tulip wrote:He chooses the elect according to the kind intention of His will (Eph. 1:4-8; Rom. 9:11) without any consideration of merit within the individual.
Sat May 07, 2011 6:43 am
Sat May 07, 2011 7:14 am
qp wrote:It should be noted, as Camping posits, that God did not have to select certain individuals which He would save from annihilation.
qp wrote:My answer to your query is that God is a fair God
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